Oliver: We’re here with the lovely Lilygun, so Lilygun say helloAC: Yes, we finished mixing and mastering it at the beginning of this year
Oliver: That’s enough, Er Lilygun will be talking to us a bit later on but for now we’re gonna play their first track Sunlight Dream from their new demo which means that you’ve done other stuff before and this is your newest creation as it were?
Oliver: Ok well I’m curious what we’re gonna hear. How many instruments are there, who plays what, who does what and how does it all work? You sing it presumably because you’re on the front cover of it so I’ve got that bit worked out, what else?AC: Basically drums, bass, two guitars and vocals and that’s it for now
Oliver: Ok and how would you in terms of influences, how would you describe yourself. I know it’s difficult but rather than saying what your music is like, what influenced your music on the whole?AC: I think the people that have influenced me personally the most have been Smashing Pumpkins, NIN, Skunk Anansie and this film called Hedwig and The Angry Inch
Oliver: What’s it called again?AC: Hedwig and The Angry Inch
Oliver: Umm tell us a bit about the filmAC: It’s a German film and it’s about this transvestite who’s a rock star. I can relate a lot to it because of the kind of theatre meets rock thing. I’m coming from a theatre background myself so that’s why I can relate to it
Oliver: I can’t wait. We’re gonna play the first track. This is DJ Olly's web show, it’s just coming up to 7.30pm and what better time to play Sunlight Dream from Lilygun and we’ll talk a bit more in a bit…
Oliver: We’ve got some dirt to dish, we have, I’ve been talking to Lilygun and things, you know underneath the surface there’s some turmoil going on there which is very good. Lilygun is currently Chris on guitar, Piranha on bass and a drummer who shall remain nameless, who’s replaced a former drummer who shall also,AC: Remain nameless (laughs)
Oliver: Tell us what happened with the former drummer cos this is just incredibleAC: Umm… basically I’d been with him for a year and a half and we had a gig booked
Oliver: Where?AC: It was at the Bull and Gate in Kentish Town. It was the last gig of the year
Oliver: Following? You had quite a few people down for the gig?AC: Yeah, I mean we've got quite a nice little fan base going for us at the moment so it was important but every gig is important regardless of who’s there and who’s not. You always want to do your best for yourself and for, you know, other people as well
Oliver: Yeah no I’m sure apart from the shit gigs where it’s just full of wankers!AC: Yeah well apart from those but even then, you still get something back from the wankers you know! (laughs) You always get something back. Performing is very therapeutic
Oliver: (laughs) and your drummer?AC: Yeah and he decided that he would rather go out to dinner instead and basically left us completely stranded. We’d never done an acoustic thing before so we had to get up on stage, rehearse very, very roughly for like half an hour before
Oliver: Horrible!AC: And somehow we did pull it off and in the end it turned out to be quite good! We ended up the year going off on a high note in fact because people weren’t expecting it
Oliver: That’s wickedAC: So it turned out really good in the end even though of course I fired him
Oliver: And your fan base, so err lets not talk about, oh by the way tosser for that guy.AC: (laughs)
Oliver: Just so you know, not done in the world of Rock’n’Roll, you suck and you are a prior and it doesn’t matter how well you hit the skins, tosser written all over it! But err, to get onto something more positive, we talked about the fan base briefly, how do you nurture that cos bare in mind of course your quite a well established band, DJ Phil just gave me a quick lowdown and obviously you’re a hard gigging band in London, how do you develop it?AC: It is really hard for rock bands out there to promote especially with the financial difficulties that you do face but the only thing you can really do is try to gig as constantly as possible and also flyer the crap out of them
Oliver: And has that worked?AC: Sometimes it does work, sometimes you’re wasting your time. You’re trying to get people interested and sometimes they don’t care so you got to be tough.
Phil: I’d just like to say Olly they're not only fantastic to hear live, they're fantastic to see live cos their a performing bandAC: Ahh thanks Phil
Phil And not a static bandAC: It’s true (laughs)
Phil: They are absolutely fantastic.
Oliver: Are they fantastic Phil? How fantastic are they Phil?
Phil: How many times have I booked you?
Oliver: Yeah, that’s the thing isn’t it because the truth’s out for gigs in London, for gigging bands up and coming starting bands, don’t be surprised when the promoter says if you don’t get X amount of people down, you have to pay to play and that’s something that might surprise up and coming bands and something that shocks them. You presuming have had this?
Phil: No, I don’t believe you have!AC: Actually no, we haven’t. We’ve always managed to get a decent crowd luckily
Phil: It’s only been recently Olly that because of other types of entertainment that live music had a bit of a drop off over the last few years and for promoters to survive and to hang on to venues, they have to maintain a certain amount of numbers.
Oliver: For sure, I’m not dissing it. Lets not piss around any more, this is Peace Of Mind.
Oliver: Gigging – at the moment you’ve kept things under wraps, we were chatting just as the track was playing and you were saying that Lilygun’s been going for a while but you’ve wanted to define your sound and develop it before you expand it to the crowd at large. How long have you been working on this project?AC: I spent a long time changing band members and just developing Lilygun in terms of what I wanted the vibe to be like. How the image was gonna be cos it’s all important, how you look, how you play, how you sound and because the song writing is diverse, there’s a big scope of what we do, there’s heavier songs and softer songs so if your gonna play music like that, there has to be a link between all of that, in how you perform or how you sing it, you know what I mean? They've got to relate to each other so it took me a while to understand it myself really
Oliver: And so we’re talking a lot about the live angle here. DJ Phil has seen Lilygun live and said that the impression that was made on you was that it was a performance as well as the music itself. Tell us what you saw; what’s install for us when we come to the next gig?
Phil: A live performance. Anna-Christina is very expressive on stage; she puts the songs across very emotionally. It’s really a privilege to be part of an audience when they’re actually playing Olly.
Oliver: She’s quite hip too.
Phil: She’s very beautiful as well.AC: (laughs)
Oliver: You can’t say that she’s very beautiful because we want people to make up their own minds about that, err and also if you say someone is very beautiful, other people might get offended and think that their not beautiful because someone else is being presented as beautiful.AC: (laughs)
Oliver: So when you come down and see Lilygun, your gonna see a performance but I want to talk about the writing side of things. Tell us briefly the writing. You are it right?AC: I write all the songs. I write them, record them, bring them to rehearsal. It sounds restricting but it’s not. It’s not me dictating note for note, you must play E,F,G or something like that but the main song I do write because I have changed band members a lot, so this way it means when I switch band members I can continue playing the same song with maybe a different solo here, different bass fill there but basically it’s the same song
Oliver: Ok and that helps to define your sound and the credibility of your songs. I guess also because we talked about a common thread going through from a softer number to a more vibrant number. One of the ways to keep that if you look at Skin, at the stuff she’s done variously, you can tell she’s the focal point and so when it’s soft, hard, ballad or whatever, that helps to keep the common thread. If you’re co-writing and jumping around in styles…AC: It can get confusing. It’s like you’ve got no real direction. There’s a consistency, somehow the songs are connected.
Oliver: Ok well we’re gonna play Moonlight, its 7:45pm, bags of time to talk a little bit more to Lilygun.
Oliver: Anna-Christina had a Brain Haemorrhage!AC: (laughs)
Oliver: I don’t know why you’re laughing, that’s not funny!AC: It’s not at all but it sounds so crazy that it’s like, what? Even to hear you say that, to me sounds so crazy
Oliver: But it’s trueAC: I did
Oliver: I’ve never, do you know it’s like meeting an astronaut AC: (laughs) Yeah, hardly anyone survives them. It’s pretty unique
Oliver: You need to get a dinner party together of Haemorrhage survivors…. Err no joking apart. So the last few years have been important for you.
Phil: Have you based your music on a particular person or particular style or do you feel that what you’re doing is unique?AC: Ahhh…(laughs) I’d like to think it’s unique cos I started writing rock music when I wasn’t actually a rock fan, you know what I mean? I was listening to NIN, and all those bands but I didn’t realize, I was just listening to it because I thought it was cool. I actually started writing Carpenter type songs in the beginning when I was 13 years old but as the years progressed the song writing got heavier and heavier and before I knew it, I was writing rock songs. In terms of what I write about, I tend to not write about things like boyfriends, I tend to look inside for my inspiration and in a lot of the songs, I’m not dictating to the listener what they should feel when they listen to it, like Moonlight for instance. Is it a happy song? Is it a sad song? What kind of song is it? It’s up to you.
Phil: The reason that I asked that is because when I listen to your music, I can’t find a comparison with another artist that I can think this sounds like.AC: Well you wouldn’t because I’m not that influenced. I write classical music as well so that’s another dynamic coming in to it and then there’s the whole theatre side of me as well. So there’s too many… my mind’s swirling with all these different aspects that it wouldn’t be that related musically to another band in particular.
Oliver: That sounds interesting. It sounds like theatre, passionate music, music that has an impact on you and certainly visually makes an impact. DJ Phil Orange is never wrong. Tell us about the future?AC: My master plan is to just enjoy being a musician and Lilygun
Oliver: This is the last track “Attention To Detail” Lilygun, it’s been fabulous having you here.AC: Thank you very much for having me.
Oliver: You will be coming down again for a live set for us, so this is DJ Olly with Ollies web show signing off…